In July, Andy Burnham told the Guardian’s political editor, Pippa Crerar, that Labour ‘didn’t get it right’ on Gaza. He apologised for the party’s slow response in calling for a ceasefire, but stopped short of describing what was happening on the ground as genocide.

This is an edited version of Pippa’s conversation with colleague Kiran Stacey. The original episode was published on 9 July



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